SPECIAL: SGI Octane2 (later green skins, some scratching) XBow 1.4, Later Cherokee PSU R12000SC 300MHz CPU (2MB L2) 1GB RAM (3 banks used) 18GB 1" 7200rpm disk (full 6.5.26m installed - my custom mega setup) V6 graphics Granite SGI keyboard and mouse, locking bar and power cable. Freeware/Nekoware CDs, SGI Gifts CDs. Free 9GB clone backup copy of the system disk. 115 UKP + shipping Excellent starter system, fully upgradeable. Great for Blender, etc.
Main Table, more valuable systems listed first. Use
price differences and later tables to calculate alternative
configurations, or just contact me for a
quote.
Disk upgrade/downgrade options are as follows (old disk along the top, new
disk down the side on the left), eg. to upgrade from an 18GB 7200rpm 1" to
36GB 15k rpm 1", add 55.
Old Disk -> RPM: | 7200 | 7200 | 10K | 10K
Space/Height: | 9GB/1" | 18GB/1" | 36GB/1" | 73GB/1.6"
-------------------------------------------------------
New 7200 1" 9GB | ** | -5 | -15 | -20
Disk 10K 1" 9GB | 5 | -3 | -12 | -17
| 7200 1" 18GB | 10 | ** | -10 | -15
| 10K 1" 18GB | 15 | 5 | -7 | -12
\|/ 10K 1" 36GB | 30 | 20 | ** | -5
15K 1" 36GB | 45 | 35 | 15 | 5
7200 1.6" 50GB | 10 | 0 | -10 | -15
10K 1.6" 73GB | 40 | 30 | 10 | **
10K 1" 73GB | 45 | 35 | 15 | 5
15K 1" 73GB | 75 | 65 | 45 | 35
10K 1" 147GB | 95 | 85 | 55 | 45
15K 1" 147GB | 135 | 125 | 105 | 95
For an extra disk with sled, select the disk required from the
SCSI Disks Table and add 25, eg. an extra 1" 10k 36GB Seagate
ST336704LCV on a sled would be +65. Note that, by default, systems
shown above with a 9GB or 18GB disk have a 1" 7200rpm drive, while
systems with a 36GB disk will have a 1" 10k rpm model, and all
systems with a 73GB disk will have a 1.6" 10K rpm model.
See the Parts/Spares page for a full list of extras, but here are some examples:
Add 1295 to include DMediaPro DM2 HD/SD Video Option (SGI PN 030-1653-002 Rev H), for VPro graphics only
Add 795 to include the Octane Digital Video option board (SGI PNs 030-0931-004 and 030-0932-002), for MGRAS gfx only (ie. SI/SE/SSI/SSE/MXI/MXE)
Add 395 to include a PCI Cage (SGI PN 013-2304-001, or 375 for PN 030-0952-005)
Add 125 to include a dual-port U160 LVD/SE PCI SCSI card (2 x 160MB/sec, QLOGIC QLA12160)
Add 40 to include a dual-port U2W LVD/SE PCI SCSI card (2 x 80MB/sec, QLOGIC QLA1280)
Add 35 to include a single-port U2W LVD/SE PCI SCSI card (80MB/sec, QLOGIC QLA1080)
Add 30 to include single-port UW PCI SCSI card (SE, 40MB/sec), or 45 for an HVD version
Add 75 to include a CAD Duo Card (extra 10/100, serial, keyboard and mouse ports)
Add 25 to include an extra disk sled on its own.
Add 45 to upgrade a 2GB/2-bank config to a 2GB/1-bank config
Add 15 to upgrade a 1GB/2-bank config to a 1GB/1-bank config
Add 235 to include an extra 2GB RAM kit (2 x 1GB modules)
Add 95 to include an extra 1GB RAM kit (2 x 512MB modules)
Add 50 to include an extra 512MB RAM kit (works with earlier mbd, 2 x 256MB modules)
Add 40 to include an extra 512MB RAM kit (later mbd only, 2 x 256MB modules)
Add 15 to include an extra 256MB RAM kit (2 x 128MB modules)
Add 10 to include an extra 128MB RAM kit (2 x 64MB modules)
Add 150 to include an Octane Channel Option board [#5]
Add 195 to include a Presenter1280 flat panel, XIO card and cable.
Add 195 to include an original SGI Sony DDS4 SDT11000 DAT drive on sled (other models of DAT available)
Add 20 to upgrade an older 030-0887-00x motherboard to a newer 030-1467-00x motherboard.
Add 15 to upgrade an older Frontplane/XBow 1.3 to XBow 1.4.
Add 15 to upgrade an older Lucent PSU to the later 747W Cherokee.
FURTHER NOTES:
#5: For MGRAS graphics options only. Includes owners guide, but not the breakout cable.
Disk
Ref No. RAM Banks Size GFX XBow Mbd/PSU Cost
No. CPU Type CPUs MHz L2 (MB) Used (GB) Type Type Type (UKP) System Type / Skins Note Refs
1 R14000SC 2 600 2MB 8192 4 3x73 V12 V1.4 Newer 2610 [Octane2, blue]
2 R14000SC 2 600 2MB 2048 1 73 V12 V1.4 Newer 1755 [Octane2, blue] [#4]
3 R14000SC 2 600 2MB 2048 1 73 V10 V1.4 Newer 1515 [Octane2, blue] [#4]
4 R14000SC 2 600 2MB 2048 1 73 V8 V1.4 Newer 1405 [Octane2, blue] [#4]
5 R14000SC 2 600 2MB 2048 1 73 MXE V1.4 Newer 1425 [Octane2, blue] [#4]
6 R14000SC 2 600 2MB 2048 1 73 V6 V1.4 Newer 1330 [Octane2, blue] [#4]
7 R14000SC 2 600 2MB 2048 2 73 V6 V1.4 Newer 1285 [Octane2, blue]
8 R14000SC 2 600 2MB 2048 1 73 SSE V1.4 Newer 1315 [Octane2, blue] [#4]
9 R14000SC 2 600 2MB 2048 2 73 SSE V1.4 Newer 1270 [Octane2, blue]
10 R14000SC 2 600 2MB 2048 4 73 SSE V1.4 Newer 1240 [Octane2, blue]
11 R14000SC 2 600 2MB 2048 4 36 SI V1.4 Newer 1200 [Octane2, orig green] [#1]
11 R14000SC 2 600 2MB 1024 2 36 SI V1.4 Newer 1135 [Octane2, blue] [#1]
12 R14000SC 1 550 2MB 1024 2 36 V12 V1.4 Newer 735 [Octane2, blue]
13 R14000SC 1 550 2MB 1024 2 36 MXE V1.4 Newer 405 [Octane2, blue]
14 R14000SC 1 550 2MB 1024 2 36 V6 V1.4 Newer 310 [Octane2, blue]
15 R14000SC 1 550 2MB 1024 2 36 SI V1.4 Newer 280 [Octane2, blue]
16 R12000SC 2 400 2MB 2048 1 36 V12 V1.4 Newer 1270 [Octane2, blue] [#4]
17 R12000SC 2 400 2MB 2048 1 36 V10 V1.4 Newer 1030 [Octane2, blue] [#4]
18 R12000SC 2 400 2MB 2048 1 36 V8 V1.4 Newer 920 [Octane2, blue] [#4]
19 R12000SC 2 400 2MB 2048 1 36 V6 V1.4 Newer 845 [Octane2, blue] [#4]
20 R12000SC 2 400 2MB 2048 2 36 V6 V1.4 Newer 800 [Octane2, blue]
21 R12000SC 2 400 2MB 2048 1 36 MXE V1.4 Newer 940 [Octane2, blue] [#4]
22 R12000SC 2 400 2MB 2048 2 36 MXE V1.4 Newer 895 [Octane2, blue]
23 R12000SC 2 400 2MB 1024 1 36 MXE V1.4 Newer 800 [Octane2, blue]
24 R12000SC 2 400 2MB 1024 2 36 MXE V1.4 Newer 785 [Octane2, blue]
25 R12000SC 2 400 2MB 1024 2 36 MXI V1.4 Newer 750 [Octane2, blue]
26 R12000SC 2 400 2MB 1024 2 36 V6 V1.4 Newer 690 [Octane2, blue]
27 R12000SC 2 400 2MB 1024 2 36 SSE V1.4 Newer 675 [Octane2, blue]
28 R12000SC 2 400 2MB 1024 2 36 SI V1.4 Newer 660 [Octane2, blue]
29 R12000SC 1 400 2MB 1024 2 36 V12 V1.4 Newer 605 [Octane2, blue]
30 R12000SC 1 400 2MB 1024 2 36 V10 V1.4 Newer 365 [Octane2, blue]
31 R12000SC 1 400 2MB 1024 2 36 V8 V1.4 Newer 255 [Octane2, blue]
32 R12000SC 1 400 2MB 1024 2 36 MXE V1.4 Newer 275 [Octane2, blue]
33 R12000SC 1 400 2MB 1024 2 36 MXE V1.4 Newer 260 [Octane2, later green]
34 R12000SC 1 400 2MB 1024 2 36 MXI V1.4 Newer 240 [Octane2, blue]
35 R12000SC 1 400 2MB 1024 2 36 MXI V1.4 Newer 225 [Octane2, later green]
36 R12000SC 1 400 2MB 1024 2 36 V6 V1.4 Newer 180 [Octane2, blue]
37 R12000SC 1 400 2MB 1024 2 36 V6 V1.4 Newer 165 [Octane2, later green]
38 R12000SC 1 400 2MB 1024 2 36 SSE V1.4 Newer 150 [Octane2, later green]
39 R12000SC 1 400 2MB 1024 2 36 SSI V1.4 Newer 145 [Octane2, later green]
40 R12000SC 1 400 2MB 1024 2 36 SE V1.4 Newer 140 [Octane2, later green]
41 R12000SC 1 400 2MB 1024 2 36 SI V1.4 Newer 135 [Octane2, later green]
42 R12000SC 2 360 2MB 1024 2 36 SSE V1.4 Newer 385 [Octane2, later green]
43 R12000SC 1 360 2MB 1024 2 36 SSE V1.4 Newer 145 [Octane2, later green]
44 R12000SC 2 300 2MB 2048 1 36 V12 V1.4 Newer 855 [Octane2, blue] [#4]
45 R12000SC 2 300 2MB 2048 1 36 V10 V1.4 Newer 615 [Octane2, blue] [#4]
46 R12000SC 2 300 2MB 2048 1 36 V8 V1.4 Newer 505 [Octane2, blue] [#4]
47 R12000SC 2 300 2MB 2048 2 36 V6 V1.4 Newer 390 [Octane2, blue]
48 R12000SC 2 300 2MB 1024 2 36 MXE V1.4 Newer 370 [Octane2, later green]
49 R12000SC 2 300 2MB 1024 2 36 V6 V1.4 Newer 275 [Octane2, later green]
50 R12000SC 2 300 2MB 1024 2 36 SI V1.4 Newer 245 [Octane2, later green]
51 R12000SC 1 300 2MB 512 1 18 V12 V1.4 Newer 560 [Octane2, later green]
52 R12000SC 1 300 2MB 512 1 18 V10 V1.4 Newer 320 [Octane2, later green]
53 R12000SC 1 300 2MB 512 1 18 V8 V1.4 Newer 210 [Octane2, later green]
55 R12000SC 1 300 2MB 512 1 18 V6 V1.4 Newer 135 [Octane2, later green]
56 R12000SC 1 300 2MB 512 2 9 MXE V1.3 Older 210 [Octane, orig green]
57 R12000SC 1 300 2MB 512 2 9 MXI V1.3 Older 165 [Octane, orig green]
58 R12000SC 1 300 2MB 512 2 9 SSE V1.3 Older 100 [Octane, orig green]
59 R12000SC 1 300 2MB 512 2 9 SSI V1.3 Older 95 [Octane, orig green]
60 R12000SC 1 300 2MB 512 2 9 SE V1.3 older 90 [Octane, orig green]
61 R12000SC 1 300 2MB 512 2 9 SI V1.3 Older 85 [Octane, orig green]
62 R12000SC 1 270 2MB 512 2 9 SI V1.4 Newer 125 [Octane2, later green]
63 R10000SC 2 250 1MB 512 2 9 SI V1.3 Older 95 [Octane, orig green]
64 R10000SC 1 250 2MB 512 2 9 SI V1.3 Older 75 [Octane, orig green]
65 R10000SC 1 250 1MB 512 2 9 SI V1.3 Older 70 [Octane, orig green]
66 R10000SC 1 225 1MB 512 2 9 SI V1.3 Older 65 [Octane, orig green] [#2]
66 R10000SC 2 195 1MB 512 2 9 SI V1.3 Older 70 [Octane, orig green] [#2]
67 R10000SC 1 195 1MB 512 2 9 SI V1.2 Older 45 [Octane, orig green] [#2] [#3]
68 R10000SC 1 195 1MB 512 4 9 SI V1.2 Older 40 [Octane, orig green] [#2] [#3]
69 R10000SC 1 175 1MB 512 2 9 SI V1.2 Older 40 [Octane, orig green] [#2] [#3]
70 R10000SC 1 175 1MB 512 4 9 SI V1.2 Older 35 [Octane, orig green] [#2] [#3]
Subtract 15 to change blue skins to later green skins, or -25 to have marked original green skins.
Subtract 10 to exclude keyboard and mouse (does not apply to 'Specials')
NOTES:
#1: An example number-crunching system, ie. best possible CPUs, but with
minimal graphics, reasonable disk, cheap skins, and good but inexpensive RAM.
#2: Skins have scratches, etc. Add 10 to replace with skins in good condition.
#3: Keyboard and mouse not included. Add 10 to include keyboard and mouse.
#4: Subtract 75 to have 2GB RAM using 4 banks instead of 1 bank.
WARRANTY | <---------- System Value (UKP) -------->
TABLE | Under 150 | 150 to 499 | 500 to 999 | 1000+
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Default cover | 30 days | 60 days | 90 days | 90 days
Extend to 60 days | +50 | - | - | -
Extend to 90 days | +95 | +75 | - | -
Extend to 6 months | +215 | +175 | +125 | +250
Extend to 1 year | +500 | +400 | +300 | +650
HOME/HOBBYISTS: Up to approx. 20% off any system priced 100 or more if a reduced warranty
period is ok. Email for details!
NOTE: These configurations are not fixed. I can upgrade/downgrade as required,
eg. R10K/250 V12. Use the upgrade prices below or price differences above to
calculate other combinations, or feel free to email me or call if you're
interested in a configuration not shown above. I also have several 'special' systems available,
ie. with original professional software setups (Alias/Maya); email for details.
Example Graphics Upgrades (easy to calculate: find the difference between various single-R12K/400 configs).
For other examples, eg. V6 -> MXE, just negate the opposite option already shown, ie. V6 -> MXE = +100.
From / To: Add From / To: Add From / To: Add From / To: Add
SI -> SE: 5 SSI -> SSE: 5 SE -> SSE: 10 V6 -> V10: 185
SI -> SSI: 10 SSI -> MXI: 80 SI -> V6: 30 V6 -> V8: 45
SI -> SSE: 15 MXI -> MXE: 35 SSE -> V6: 10 V6 -> V12: 425
SI -> MXI: 90 SSE -> MXE: 110 MXI -> V6: -60 V8 -> V10: 140
SI -> MXE: 125 SE -> SSI: 5 MXE -> V6: -95 V8 -> V12: 380
SI -> SI+Tex: 40 SE -> SE+Tex: 55 MXE -> V8: -50 V10 -> V12: 240
Here is a graph showing how much faster SE, SSI and SSE are compared to SI for geometry performance.
The Geometry Engine used in E-series graphics options is 40% faster and the Raster Engine is 15% faster.
In general, the faster the CPU module in a system, the better the
base RAM/disk will be and the more extras will be included. Price
differences are then tied to the choice of graphics to make things
consistent. Thus, given a particular budget, consider a better CPU
option first because, for just a little extra, a system may have much
better RAM/disk by default. The table is ordered in terms of CPU
speed, dual-CPU configurations shown first. Choose the example
closest to your needs in the table, then add on any extras as
required (or discounts) - see the list of example optional
extras/upgrades after the table, or the Parts/Spares page for the full list. If
you're not sure, feel free to email or call me. Widen your browser
window to see the full table.
Please see the Octane section of the Parts/Spares page for a full list of available upgrades and extras for Octane, eg. PCI option cards, etc. Further items such as DVDROM/CDROM/CDRW/DAT units, SCSI cables, etc. can be found on the SCSI Items page.
Please see my Octane Architecture page for details on the Octane system, aswell as the other information available on the main Octane index.
See the shipping costs page for details
of postage charges to the UK, mainland Europe and beyond. A typical
shipping cost would be 25 UKP for a UK destination (by PF48 for
usually two boxes, though a single-CPU VPro system with no extras can
just be shipped in one box), and between 30 and 90 UKP for most
mainland European destinations. For destinations beyond Europe, see
the shipping costs page for full
details. Alternatively, a personal collection is welcome; I live in
Edinburgh, Scotland. Or I can deliver by train/bus if the distance
isn't too far (buyer just covers my travel expenses).
Monitors and monitor cables are also available - please see the monitor page for details.
Detailed Notes
Unless otherwise stated, all Octanes include a newer-type SGI granite keyboard and mouse, locking bar and power cable. Any system with dual-R12K/400 or better CPU configuration comes with the newer black versions of the SGI keyboard and mouse if I have them in stock.
Most Octane2 systems have a few minor marks, but nothing serious.
If you require a hinv output of any configuration, let me know and I will send it to you. Similarly, I can send any photos required of any system or part.
All systems have a full installation of IRIX 6.5.26m (my own special installation with lots of extras such as Blender, BMRT, Ayam3D, mplayer, OpenOffice, Freeware, Nekoware, Quake, Quake2, Quake3, etc.) Adobe Premiere 4.2 is installed, plus many other items, including a good custom desktop layout. A typical installed software list in Software Manager looks like this, though I can of course customise in any way required, or even just put on a default installation with no extras if preferred.
All systems valued more than 100 UKP come with the Octane/Octane2 demos CD, my custom August 2003 Freeware split (4 CDs), custom SGI Nekoware split (4 CDs) and my SGI Gifts CDs. See the IRIX CDs page for details of these CDs. Alternatively, I can include a full 6.5.26 CD set for +50 (email for details).
Dual-CPU systems offer significantly better responsiveness than a single-CPU machine, faster performance for applications that can exploit 2 CPUs (eg. animation programs, compression, movie playback, etc.) aswell as greater flexibility (render on one CPU, continue working on the other). For single-threaded applications though, eg. OpenOffice and Firefox, higher-clocked single-CPU systems are faster.
V12 graphics is the best graphics option available. V12 has 128MB combined VRAM/TRAM (up to 108MB for textures), is 2X faster than V6/V8 for geometry processing, supports many more resolutions and has extra advanced features, though V8 does have the same amount of memory as V12. Note that all VPro systems have Quake3 installed aswell as Quake1 and Quake2.
V6 graphics is valued less than MXI or MXE, even though V6 is faster and has up to 4X more texture memory. This is partly due to the use of MXI/MXE in professional video editing systems, and thus higher demand for them. It is also because V6 does not support 1280x1024 at 72Hz, 75 or 76Hz; on older monitors, V6 must run at a reduced frame buffer depth at 60Hz if using 1280x1024. To get the most from V6, it must be run at 96Hz, eg. by using a newer monitor such as the GDM5411, or one can instead use 1600x1200 at 72Hz which works ok. V10 does not have this restriction. Here is a summary:
CAD-oriented, fewer GIS, imaging, heavy texture
hw features, not so oriented, complex animation,
much VRAM or TRAM. more features, dual-head, etc.
Old Series VPro V6 (32MB RAM) V8 (128MB RAM)
Original GE speed
New Series VPro V10 (32MB RAM) V12 (128MB RAM)
2X Faster GE speed
Remember that many tasks are often pixel-fill bound, so V12 may not offer that much of a performance increase over V8 for complex tasks. V8 is an excellent solution for most users; indeed, my own system is a V8.
Note that for all dual-R14K/600 systems, in addition to the usual included items (black keyboard and mouse, new blue mouse mat, locking bar and power cable), all such systems also come with an original SGI CD box set plus 6.5.26 CDR update, SGI speaker set and microphone cable.
Extras/Upgrades
See the Octane section of the Parts/Spares page for a full list of options, extras, upgrades, etc. If you're interested in a configuration not listed on my site, please contact me for details.