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Indigo2s

Last Change: 13/Sep/2008

Indigo2 Parts/Spares

I have numerous Indigo2s available, far too many to list individually, so here are some example configurations. Choose the one closest to your needs, then add on any extras or discounts as required. See after the table for full details.

NOTE: XL24/SolidIMPACT use 1 slot,
      XZ/Elan/HighIMPACT use 2 slots,
      Extreme/MaxIMPACT use 3 slots.

Ref                                RAM   Banks  Disk   GFX            Cost
No.  Colour     CPU     MHz  L2    (MB)  Used   Size   Type           (UKP)

1    Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB  1024     2    73GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   735  [1" 15k disk]
2    Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB  1024     2    73GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   680  [1" 10k disk]
3    Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB  1024     2    73GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   675  [1.6" 10k disk]
4    Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB   512     1    36GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   460
5    Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB   256     1    36GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   355
6    Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB   256     2    18GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   330
7    Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB   128     1     9GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   265
8    Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB   128     1     9GB   MaxIMPACT/1MB   185
9    Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB   128     1     9GB   HighIMPACT/4MB  190
10   Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB   128     1     9GB   HighIMPACT/1MB  150
11   Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB  1024     2     9GB   SolidIMPACT     485  (less heat)
12   Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB  1024     3     9GB   SolidIMPACT     470
13   Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB   512     1     9GB   SolidIMPACT     290
14   Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB   256     1     9GB   SolidIMPACT     185
15   Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB   256     2     9GB   SolidIMPACT     175
16   Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB   128     1     9GB   SolidIMPACT     135
17   Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB   128     1     9GB   Extreme         115
18   Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB   512     1     9GB   XZ              260  [#1]
19   Purple   R10000SC  195  1MB   128     1     9GB   XZ              105
20   Purple   R10000SC  175  1MB   128     1     9GB   SolidIMPACT     125
21   Teal     R80000SC   75  2MB   256     2    18GB   Extreme         240
22   Teal     R80000SC   75  2MB   128     1    18GB   Extreme         200
23   Teal     R80000SC   75  2MB   128     1     9GB   Extreme         175  [#2]
24   Purple   R4400SC   250  2MB   384     3    73GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   439  [1" 15k disk]
25   Purple   R4400SC   250  2MB   384     3    73GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   384  [1" 10k disk]
26   Purple   R4400SC   250  2MB   384     3    73GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   375  [1.6" 10k disk]
27   Purple   R4400SC   250  2MB   384     3    18GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   344
28   Purple   R4400SC   250  2MB   256     2    18GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   304
29   Purple   R4400SC   250  2MB   256     2     9GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   279
30   Purple   R4400SC   250  2MB   128     1     9GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   239
31   Purple   R4400SC   250  2MB   128     2     9GB   MaxIMPACT/4MB   235
32   Purple   R4400SC   250  2MB   128     2     9GB   MaxIMPACT/1MB   155
33   Purple   R4400SC   250  2MB   128     2     9GB   HighIMPACT/4MB  160
34   Purple   R4400SC   250  2MB   128     2     9GB   HighIMPACT/1MB  120
35   Purple   R4400SC   250  2MB   128     1     9GB   SolidIMPACT     110
36   Purple   R4400SC   250  2MB   128     2     9GB   SolidIMPACT     106
37   Teal     R4400SC   250  2MB   256     2    18GB   Extreme         155
38   Teal     R4400SC   250  2MB   256     2     9GB   Extreme         130
39   Teal     R4400SC   250  2MB   128     1     9GB   Extreme          90
40   Teal     R4400SC   250  2MB   128     1     9GB   XL24             90  [#3]
41   Teal     R4400SC   250  2MB   128     2     9GB   Extreme          86
42   Teal     R4400SC   250  2MB   128     2     9GB   GR3-Elan         81
43   Teal     R4400SC   250  2MB   128     2     9GB   GR2-XZ           76
44   Teal     R4400SC   250  2MB   128     2     1GB   Extreme          76  
45   Teal     R4400SC   250  2MB    64     1     1GB   Extreme          67
46   Teal     R4400SC   250  2MB    64     2     1GB   Extreme          66
47   Teal     R4400SC   200  2MB    64     2     1GB   Extreme          56
48   Teal     R4400SC   200  1MB    64     2     1GB   Extreme          51
49   Teal     R4400SC   175  1MB    64     2     1GB   Extreme          46
50   Teal     R4400SC   100  1MB    64     2     1GB   Extreme          46
51   Teal     R4600SC   133  512K   64     2     1GB   Extreme          46  [#4]
52   Teal     R4000SC   100  1MB    64     2     1GB   Extreme          40
53   Teal     R4000SC   100  1MB    32     1      -    Extreme          30  [#5] (no sled, disk, kybd or mouse)

NOTES:

#1: An example number-crunching system, ie. best possible CPU, good RAM with
    room for expansion, reasonable disk, but cheapest possible graphics.
#2: R8K systems are not as fast as R10K systems for integer tasks, but are good for
    fp tasks and are fascinating to work with. Ideal for compiler fans.
#3: XL24 is good for 2D tasks (much higher 2D fill rate than the non-IMPACT 3D
    options), eg. for use with Indigo2Video, CosmoCompress, etc. Also good for
    better expansion, eg. dual-head XL24, 10/100, video option, etc.
#4: The R4600SC/133 actually has the same integer performance as the R4400SC/175,
    and thus is much faster than an R4400SC/100.
#5: A cheap way to obtain some spares: PSU, R4K motherboard, EISA backplane, etc.


      WARRANTY     |      <---------- System Value (UKP) ------->
       TABLE       |  Under 100 | 100 to 249 | 250 to 499 |    500+
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Default cover      |  10 days   |  30 days   |   90 days  |   90 days               
Extend to 30 days  |    +50     |     -      |      -     |      -
Extend to 90 days  |    +75     |   +100     |      -     |      - 
Extend to 6 months |   +150     |   +225     |    +300    |    +450
Extend to 1 year   |   +200     |   +350     |    +500    |    +750

HOME/HOBBYISTS: Up to approx. 20% off if a reduced warranty period is ok. Email for details!

These configurations are not fixed. I can upgrade/downgrade as
required, though note downgrade discounts and reduced warranty
discounts are not available on systems valued less than 100.
Use the upgrade pricing tables below or price differences above
to calculate other combinations, or feel free to email me if
you're interested in a configuration not shown.

Graphics Option Upgrade Table:

  From / To:        Add      From / To:           Add      From / To:            Add

  XL24 -> XZ:       -10      XZ -> High/4MB:       85      Extreme -> High/4MB:   75
  XL24 -> Elan:      -5      XZ -> Max/1MB:        80      Extreme -> Max/1MB:    70
  XL24 -> Extreme:    0      XZ -> Max/4MB:       160      Extreme -> Max/4MB:   150
  XL24 -> Solid:     20      Elan -> Extreme:       5      Solid -> High/1MB:     15
  XL24 -> High/1MB:  35      Elan -> Solid:        25      Solid -> High/4MB:     55
  XL24 -> High/4MB:  75      Elan -> High/1MB:     40      Solid -> Max/1MB:      50
  XL24 -> Max/1MB:   70      Elan -> High/4MB:     80      Solid -> Max/4MB:     130
  XL24 -> Max/4MB:  150      Elan -> Max/1MB:      75      High/1MB -> High/4MB:  40
  XZ -> Elan:         5      Elan -> Max/4MB:     155      High/1MB -> Max/1MB:   35
  XZ -> Extreme:     10      Extreme -> XL24:       0      High/1MB -> Max/4MB:  115
  XZ -> Solid:       30      Extreme -> Solid:     20      Max/1MB -> Max/4MB:    80
  XZ -> High/1MB:    45      Extreme -> High/1MB:  35


Disk upgrade options are as follows (old disk along the top, new disk
down the side on the left), eg. to upgrade from a 9GB to a 1.6"
7200rpm 36GB is +30, or from an 18GB to a 10k 1" 73GB is +40:

          Old Disk ->  |         |  7200   | 10k 1"  | 10k 1" | 10k 1"
  New                  | 1GB/2GB |  4/9GB  |  18GB   |  36GB  |  73GB
  Disk  ---------------------------------------------------------------
   |       7200 1" 9GB |    10   |    **   |    **   |    **  |    **
   |        10k 1" 9GB |    20   |    10   |    **   |    **  |    ** 
   |    7200 1.6" 18GB |    25   |    15   |   -10   |    **  |    **
  \|/     7200 1" 18GB |    30   |    20   |    -5   |    **  |    **
           10k 1" 18GB |    35   |    25   |    **   |    **  |    **
        7200 1.6" 36GB |    40   |    30   |     5   |   -10  |    **
          7200 1" 36GB |    45   |    35   |    10   |    -5  |    **
           10k 1" 36GB |    50   |    40   |    15   |    **  |    **
           15k 1" 36GB |    90   |    80   |    55   |    40  |    **
        7200 1.6" 50GB |    45   |    35   |    10   |    -5  |    **
         10k 1.6" 73GB |    70   |    60   |    35   |    20  |    -5
           10k 1" 73GB |    75   |    65   |    40   |    25  |    **
           15k 1" 73GB |   135   |   125   |   100   |    85  |    55
          10k 1" 146GB |   135   |   175   |   150   |   135  |   105

All disks larger than 1GB are SCA with adapter. A 1GB 50pin is valued the
same as an old 7.2k 9GB SCA, so the upgrade cost from 1GB to 9GB (+10) is
+10 for the adapter. All disks larger than 9GB are 10000rpm models by default.

See the Parts/Spares page for a full list of extras, but here are some exmaples:

Subtract 5 to exclude keyboard and mouse.
Add 20 to change any teal system to have a top lid in excellent condition.
Add 15 to change any purple system to have a top lid in good condition.
Add 25 to include a 3Com EISA 3c597 10/100 FastEthernet card (driver CD included).
Add 10 to include a set of teal foot stands.
Add 15 to include a set of purple foot stands.
Add 15 to include an extra disk sled.
Add 8 to include an extra 32MB RAM (4 x 8MB SIMMs).
Add 18 to include an extra 64MB RAM (4 x 16MB SIMMs).
Add 40 to include an extra 128MB RAM (4 x 32MB SIMMs).
Add 90 to include an extra 256MB RAM (4 x 64MB SIMMs, R8K/R10K only)
Add 195 to include an extra 512MB RAM (4 x 128MB SIMMs, R8K/R10K only)
Add 35 to include a Floptical drive on a sled.
Add 45 to include a 32X CDROM on a 3rd party CDROM sled (60 for a 32X on original SGI sled).
Add 40 to include a DDS1 DAT drive on a sled.
Add 15 to include an extra SolidIMPACT board (needs 1 free slot, IMPACT systems only).
Add 30 to include an extra HighIMPACT/1MB set (needs 2 free slots, IMPACT systems only).
Add 70 to include an extra HighIMPACT/4MB set (needs 2 free slots, IMPACT systems only).
Add 65 to include an extra MaxIMPACT/1MB set (needs 3 free slots, IMPACT systems only).
Add 145 to include an extra MaxIMPACT/4MB set (needs 3 free slots, IMPACT systems only).
Add 15 to include an extra XZ set (needs 2 free slots, non-IMPACT systems only).
Add 20 to include an extra Elan set (needs 2 free slots, non-IMPACT systems only).
Add 25 to include an extra Extreme set (needs 3 free slots, non-IMPACT systems only).
Add 25 to include an extra XL24 board (needs 1 free slot, non-IMPACT systems only).
Add 55 to include Indigo2Video (I2V) on its own.
Add 95 to include CosmoCompress on its own (Cosmo1 board). Connector cable is +75.
Add 125 to include Indigo2Video, breakout cable and IndyCam [full details].
Add 225 to include IMPACT Video with original Breakout Cable (for IMPACT graphics only).
Add 320 to include video bundle for XL24 (10/100, I2V, Cosmo, connector & breakout cables, IndyCam).

Please see my 2nd-hand Indigo2 Buyers Guide for complete background information on Indigo2.

See the shipping costs page for details of postage charges to the UK, mainland Europe and beyond. A typical cost would be 12.50 UKP for a UK destination (by PF48) and around 25 to 80 UKP for a mainland European destination for a single Indigo2 with peripherals. For destinations beyond Europe, see the shipping costs page for full details.

All systems have some degree of scratching on the top lid, but are always fully intact (no broken catches, etc.) If cosmetics are important though, then I can fit a system with a good condition lid for extra.

All Extreme systems have an Extreme badge, all IMPACT systems have an IMPACT badge, and all R10K systems have a 10000 badge. All teal systems valued more than 100 UKP include teal foot stands for free. All purple systems valued more than 150 UKP include purple foot stands for free.

Unless otherwise stated, all Indigo2s include a normal-type SGI granite keyboard, normal-type granite mouse (colour-faded due to sunlight exposure; add 10 to have a newer-tpye SGI mouse in good condition instead), new/unused blue mouse mat, metal locking bar and power cable. Any 6.2/6.5 system valued at more than 80 UKP also comes with my custom SGI Freeware and Gifts CDs, plus my custom Neko CD split for R8K/R10K systems. See the IRIX CDs page for details of these CDs. Alternatively, I can include a full 6.5.22 CD set for +50, or +45 for non-IMPACT systems (email for details). Monitors and monitor cables are also available - see the monitor section for details.

All systems with at least 128MB RAM and 4GB disk come with a full installation of IRIX 6.5.22m - the last version of IRIX released for Indigo2. My installation includes lots of extras such as Blender, BMRT, Ayam3D, mplayer, OpenOffice, Freeware, Nekoware, Quake, Quake2, etc.) Adobe Premiere 4.2 is installed (IMPACT-only), plus many other items, including a good custom desktop layout. A typical installed software list in Software Manager looks like this. Note that I can install 6.5.22 on a system with only 64MB RAM, but it won't run very well (128MB or more is best). I can install 6.2 or 5.3 if prefered though.

All systems with less than 128MB RAM (or a disk less than 4GB) by default have a good IRIX 6.2 installation; such systems come with the May 2001 Freeware CDs included (the last freeware release which fully supported 6.2) and my May 2001 Gifts CD. Alternatively, I can include a full 6.2 CD set for +30 (email for details).

Lastly, not everyone wants to have the latest OS, or perhaps an earlier version is needed anyway. Thus, if required I can also install older releases such as 6.2, 5.3 with XFS, 5.2, etc. on any configuration that can take it.



Graphics Comparison Summary

For full details on Indigo2 graphics options, see my 2nd-hand Indigo2 Buyers Guide. The following description is just a summary.

GR2-XZ graphics (2 Geometry Engines [GEs] and 1 Raster Engine [RE]) is generally half the speed of Elan graphics, although it can actually be very similar if the bottleneck is pixel fill instead of geometry processing. Elan is half the speed of Extreme, ie. Indigo2 Elan graphics is the same speed as 'Indy XZ', which is also the same as Elan for IRIS Indigo (4 GEs and 1 RE).

Extreme graphics, with 8 GEs and 2 REs, is about the same speed for shaded/wireframe/points tasks (ie. anything non-textured) as an R5000SC/180 O2 and is thus quite good for using animation packages such as Blender. Here is a comparison table:

                                        Lit Gouraud Z
           GEs    REs     MFLOPS (**)   Triangles/sec     No. Slots Used
           ^^^    ^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Extreme:    8      2         256            405M                 3
Elan:       4      1         128            181M                 2
GR2-XZ:     2      1          64            100M                 2

(**) Available MFLOPS processing power for accelerating
geometry/lighting calculations (32MFLOPS per GE).

For precise real-world examples, see my Inventor benchmark results. Compared to the original XZ/Elan/Extreme graphics, IMPACT options use later GE and RE designs such that SolidIMPACT (with 1 GE and 1 RE), is up to twice as fast as Extreme, can do 32bit colour (Extreme cannot) and only uses one slot (Extreme uses three), although Extreme is quite strong for wireframe tasks (IMPACT focused more on improving shaded performance and adding hardware texturing). SolidIMPACT is good for non-textured tasks, and has other benefits and improvments compared to Extreme.

HighIMPACT graphics is the same as SolidIMPACT for non-textured tasks, but it includes hardware texture mapping with either 1MB or 4MB texture memory (TRAM) and so is much faster for textured tasks (typically 20X to 50X faster - the more complicated the scene, the better the speedup compared to software texturing). A 1MB TRAM system is limited to 16bit colour, while a 4MB TRAM system can do 32bit RGBA double-buffered or even 36bit RGB for high quality imaging. IMPACT graphics also supports higher resolutions than the older graphics. There is a rare version of HighIMPACT called HighIMPACT/AA - this has 2 GEs but still 1 RE, but note it is the same speed as ordinary HighIMPACT - the AA version merely used a temporary alternate GE design. HighIMPACT is a good entry choice for playing games such as Quake, Certain IMPACT, Mekton, etc. properly (definitely best with 4MB TRAM), but also offers hardware accelerated 2D imaging and other benefits.

MaxIMPACT is up to twice as fast as HighIMPACT for everything (2 GEs and 2 REs), supports even more resolutions, and also has either 1MB or 4MB TRAM. See the Inventor 3D results for High/Max comparison examples - examine the data for the Underwater Camera, Huge Engine and Chromeskins models. NOTE: these tests only use one texture, mapped onto a whole model (environment mapping). A model which consisted of lots of separate textures mapped in the normal way would show a larger difference between High and Max, and a similarly larger difference between software and hardware texturing.

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