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All configurations come with DVDROM, CDRW or CDROM (you choose; discount available if not required), a free QLOGIC Dual-channel QLA1280 U2W SCSI card, SGI keyboard, SGI mouse, new blue mouse mat and power cable. A free 9GB disk containing a clone backup copy of the system disk is also included with any system.
Main Table, more valuable systems listed first. Use price differences and later tables to calculate alternative configurations, or just contact me for a quote.
Disk
Ref RAM Banks Size Disk GFX 5.25" Cost
No. CPU Type MHz L2 (MB) Used (GB) RPM Type Device (UKP)
1 R16000SC 700 4MB 4096 2 147 15K V12 DVDROM 1855
2 R16000SC 700 4MB 2048 1 147 15K V12 DVDROM 1605
3 R16000SC 700 4MB 2048 2 147 15K V12 DVDROM 1555
4 R16000SC 700 4MB 1024 1 147 15K V12 DVDROM 1455
5 R16000SC 700 4MB 1024 1 147 15K V10 DVDROM 1055
6 R16000SC 700 4MB 1024 1 147 10K V12 DVDROM 1415
7 R16000SC 700 4MB 1024 1 147 10K V10 DVDROM 1015
8 R16000SC 700 4MB 1024 1 73 15K V10 DVDROM 995
9 R16000SC 700 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 DVDROM 965
10 R16000SC 700 4MB 1024 1 73 10K V10 DVDROM 970
11 R16000SC 700 4MB 1024 1 36 10K V12 DVDROM 1350
12 R16000SC 700 4MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 DVDROM 950
13 R16000SC 700 4MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 16/10/40 950
14 R16000SC 700 4MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 40X CDR 930
15 R16000SC 700 4MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 32X CDR 925
16 R16000SC 700 4MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 NONE 900
17 R14000SC 600 4MB 4096 2 147 15K V12 DVDROM 1450
18 R14000SC 600 4MB 2048 1 147 15K V12 DVDROM 1200
19 R14000SC 600 4MB 2048 2 147 15K V12 DVDROM 1150
20 R14000SC 600 4MB 1024 1 147 15K V12 DVDROM 1050
21 R14000SC 600 4MB 1024 1 147 15K V10 DVDROM 650
22 R14000SC 600 4MB 1024 1 147 10K V12 DVDROM 1010
23 R14000SC 600 4MB 1024 1 147 10K V10 DVDROM 610
24 R14000SC 600 4MB 1024 1 73 15K V10 DVDROM 590
25 R14000SC 600 4MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 DVDROM 560
26 R14000SC 600 4MB 1024 1 73 10K V10 DVDROM 565
27 R14000SC 600 4MB 1024 1 36 10K V12 DVDROM 945
28 R14000SC 600 4MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 DVDROM 545
29 R14000SC 600 4MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 16/10/40 545
30 R14000SC 600 4MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 40X CDR 525
31 R14000SC 600 4MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 32X CDR 520
32 R14000SC 600 4MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 NONE 495
33 R14000SC 500 2MB 4096 2 147 15K V12 DVDROM 1305
34 R14000SC 500 2MB 2048 1 147 15K V12 DVDROM 1055
35 R14000SC 500 2MB 2048 2 147 15K V12 DVDROM 1005
36 R14000SC 500 2MB 1024 1 147 15K V12 DVDROM 905
37 R14000SC 500 2MB 1024 1 147 15K V10 DVDROM 505
38 R14000SC 500 2MB 1024 1 147 10K V12 DVDROM 865
39 R14000SC 500 2MB 1024 1 147 10K V10 DVDROM 465
40 R14000SC 500 2MB 1024 1 73 15K V10 DVDROM 445
41 R14000SC 500 2MB 1024 1 36 15K V10 DVDROM 415
42 R14000SC 500 2MB 1024 1 73 10K V10 DVDROM 420
43 R14000SC 500 2MB 1024 1 36 10K V12 DVDROM 800
44 R14000SC 500 2MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 DVDROM 400
45 R14000SC 500 2MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 16/10/40 400
46 R14000SC 500 2MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 40X CDR 380
47 R14000SC 500 2MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 32X CDR 375
48 R14000SC 500 2MB 1024 1 36 10K V10 NONE 350
Options/Upgrades (see the Parts/Spares page for a full list):
Add 400 to upgrade V10 to V12.
Add 105 to include a Copper Gbit Ethernet PCI card.
Add 95 to include a Revolution 7.1 PCI Audio Card.
Add 45 to include an Audigy2 PCI Audio Card (not quite so good quality).
Add 250 to include an extra 2GB RAM kit.
Add 100 to include an extra 1GB RAM kit.
Add 195 to include a dual-port LSI U320 PCI SCSI card
Add 125 to include a dual-port U160 LVD/SE PCI SCSI card (2 x 160MB/sec, QLOGIC QLA12160)
Add 40 to include a dual-port U2W LVD/SE PCI SCSI card (2 x 80MB/sec, QLOGIC QLA1280)
Add 35 to include a single-port U2W LVD/SE PCI SCSI card (80MB/sec, QLOGIC QLA1080)
Add 30 to include single-port UW PCI SCSI card (QLA1040B SE, 40MB/sec), or 45 for an HVD version
Subtract 10 to exclude keyboard and mouse
Subtract 20 if you don't mind a unit with scratches, etc.
WARRANTY | <------- System Value (UKP) ------->
TABLE | Up to 599 | 599 to 1499 | 1500+
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Default cover | 30 days | 60 days | 90 days
Extend to 60 days | +50 | - | -
Extend to 90 days | +95 | +150 | -
Extend to 6 months | +195 | +295 | +495
Extend to 1 year | +395 | +595 | +995
NOTE: These configurations are not fixed. I can upgrade/downgrade
as required. Use the upgrade prices below or price differences above
to calculate other combinations, or feel free to email me or call if
you're interested in a configuration not shown above.
The main table above already shows the different disk option prices,
but here is an upgrade/downgrade table (old disk along the top, new
disk down the side on the left, all disks are 1" high), eg. to upgrade
from a 36GB 10K to a 73GB 15K, add 45. Remember that unlike Octane,
Fuel can take good advantage of a 15K drive, eg. more than 95MB/sec
from a Maxtor Atlas 15K II.
Old Disk -> RPM: | 10K | 15K | 10K | 15K | 10K
Space: | 36GB | 36GB | 73GB | 73GB | 147GB
-----------------------------------------------
New 10K 36GB | - | - | - | - | -
Disk 15K 36GB | 15 | - | - | - | -
| 10K 73GB | 20 | 5 | - | - | -
| 15K 73GB | 45 | 30 | 25 | - | -
\|/ 10K 147GB | 65 | 50 | 45 | 20 | -
15K 147GB | 105 | 90 | 85 | 60 | 40
For an extra disk with sled, merely select the disk required from the
SCSI Disks Table.
The main table is ordered in terms of CPU speed. Choose the example
closest to your needs in the table, then add on any extras as
required (or discounts) - see the list of example optional
extras/upgrades after the table, or the Parts/Spares page for the full list. If
you're not sure, feel free to email me. Please widen your browser
window to see the full table.
Please see the Fuel section of the Parts/Spares page for a full list of available upgrades and extras. Further items such as DVDROM/CDROM/CDRW/DAT units, SCSI cables, etc. can be found on the SCSI Items page.
Please see my Origin3000 Architecture page for background information on the architecture Fuel is based on. Fuel is effectively a single-CPU Origin3000 with one VPro graphics pipe).
See the shipping costs page for details
of postage charges to the UK, mainland Europe and beyond. A typical
shipping cost would be 25 UKP for a UK destination, and between 30
and 75 UKP for most mainland European destinations. For destinations
beyond Europe, see the shipping costs
page for full details. Alternatively, a personal collection is
welcome; I live in Edinburgh, Scotland. Or I can deliver by train/bus
if the distance isn't too far (buyer just covers my travel
expenses).
DVI monitor cables and adapters are also available - please see the
monitors page for details.
Detailed Notes
All systems have a full installation of IRIX 6.5.26m (my own special installation with lots of extras such as Blender, BMRT, Ayam3D, mplayer, OpenOffice, Freeware, Nekoware, Quake2, Quake3, etc.) Adobe Premiere 4.2 is installed, plus many other items, including a good custom desktop layout. A typical installed software list in Software Manager looks like this, though I can of course customise in any way required, or even just put on a default installation with no extras if preferred.
All systems come with the Octane2 VPro demos CD, my custom August 2003 Freeware split (4 CDs), custom SGI Nekoware split (4 CDs) and my SGI Gifts CDs. See the IRIX CDs page for details of these CDs. Alternatively, I can include a full 6.5.26 CD set for +50 (email for details). Every system includes a newer-type SGI keyboard and mouse, new/unused blue mouse mat and power cable.
If you require a hinv output of any configuration, let me know and I will send it to you. Similarly, I can send any photos required of any system or part.
V12 graphics is the best graphics option available. V12 has 128MB combined VRAM/TRAM (up to 108MB for textures) and supports more resolutions than V10.
Background Information (Comparisons with Octane2)
CPUs found in Fuels range from R14K/500 (2MB L2) to R16K/900MHz (8MB L2), with speeds of 600, 700 and 800 inbetween. 800MHz and 900MHz systems are much harder to find and thus more expensive.
The maximum RAM is 4GB (4 DIMM slots). The system architecture compared to Octane2 has 4X faster SCSI (U160 instead of UW), 2X faster PCI (which comes built-in as standard!), 2X faster RAM, 2X faster system bandwidth, lower RAM latency, less noise, but audio is not included as standard. An M-Audio Revolution 7.1 PCI card is the usual audio board to look for, though this card is rather costly even 2nd-hand; the other board one can use is the Audigy2 ZS, but it's not as good as the Revolution 7.1. Fuel does have some degree of support for Firewire and USB (see www.nekochan.net for details).
Fuel has two internal 5.25" bays included, DVDROM typically fitted, but not always; some people have been able to use DVDR/DVDRW drives ok, but this does require a recent version of IRIX and up-to-date Nekoware apps (I can install 6.5.30 instead if required). The system has two internal 3.5" bays for disks, though one could always employ the 5.25" bays for extra disks aswell if required.
For raw speed, a 500MHz Fuel can be 40% to 50% faster than a 400MHz Octane2 with a good disk, ie. a better speed increase than is implied merely by the 25% higher clock speed. Application startup times are much improved. Fuel can take good advantage of a nice 15K drive since it has U160 SCSI. The graphics can only be V10 or V12 (just one pipe), but Fuel can get more out of them compared to the same options in Octane, though one would only notice this if working with more dynamic datasets, or if some aspect of displaying the model was CPU/memory bound, eg. repeated conversion from a prioprietory database to Performer. Overall, for any equivalent single-CPU/gfx combination, Fuel is better value for money than Octane2, ie. bette bang for your buck.
Fuel already has 4 PCI slots included. PCI with Octane requires either the expensive PCI cage or an XTalk adapter, so Fuel has an advantage here. If you can make good use of dual CPUs, then Octane2 may be a better choice though, eg. for use with Blender, Maya, SoftImage, or other applications that can use dual-CPUs for rendering (any professional video, animation or effects package will be able to use dual-CPUs). Thus, if single-threaded speed is more important (ie. running applications such as OpenOffice or Firefox), then a 600MHz Fuel with a 15K disk is a very nice system (I recommend the Maxtor Atlas 15K II), especially if you don't care about audio since most Fuels do not come fitted with an audio board by default, whereas Octane has audio built-in as standard. By contrast, dual-CPU Octanes are very cool when using applications that can use multiple CPUs, but good dual-CPU systems (ie. dual-R12K/400 or better) ar a lot more expensive than a single-CPU Octane.
See the Nekochan site for further hardware information on Fuel.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to ask!
